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TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/21/2018:  13:47:19


Yes, because I am an EGOMANIAC, I'd love to be able to see how many members are subscribed to any particular topic.. Is it possible to get that info???

farmerjones - Posted - 05/21/2018:  14:34:59


Just for you Lee. Here's one. (1)

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/21/2018:  14:36:51


Thanks, Farmer.. That is the ONE I was looking for.!!!

UsuallyPickin - Posted - 05/21/2018:  15:02:11


Me too me two........

Beardog - Posted - 05/21/2018:  18:56:55


I just wish there were more members online! I am used to the banjo hangout, where hundreds are often online at any given moment. Fiddlers must just not be an internet using bunch! They probably are spending their time practicing...probably a hint to myself!

Swing - Posted - 05/22/2018:  05:17:35


I let my subscription run out

Play Happy

Swing

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/22/2018:  09:02:09


I'm not just suggesting that my topics have the number of subscribers listed, but ALL topics..That would be a very interesting thing to know IMO...

DougD - Posted - 05/22/2018:  09:25:22


I never subscribe to topics, except sometimes by accident, when I wonder what all these surprise emails are about. I use "active topics" as an entry point to keep up with what's going on. So the number of subscribers may not be any sort of indicator of how many members are actually reading a thread.
Beardog, looks like you've been here long enough to know we've lost a lot of members to various reasons. Hard to argue with death and disability, but I think many leave out of boredom. I don't see as many interesting conversations here anymore, and the perennial questions of 'What are the best strings, rosin, tunes, etc." get old after awhile. Also, it doesn't take too many members loudly spouting useless nonsense to kind of spoil things. Just my two cents - one person's useless nonsense might be another's pearls of wisdom.

Fiddler - Posted - 05/22/2018:  12:48:50


Like Doug, I use active topics as a way in. I don't subscribe. My mailbox is full enough as it is and I would hate to have something as critical as bowing patterns or rosin or strings or ...., get lost in the noise.



I will say that occasionally someone opens a thread (even though it may have been discussed previously) and it will lead to some very interesting comments and insights. The knowledge base here on FHO is immense!! I can't tell you all how much I have learned about music theory, music history as related to fiddling, technique and instrument maintenance!



Since many of us here are self-taught, when we speak from our personal experiences, we are telling our "truth" and what worked for us. It may not be universal, although there are some consistent themes. Technique is not that critical to playing OT fiddling. If you get the sound you want, you are doing it right. For me, I am now wanting to play other styles which requires better technique.Thus, I am unlearning nearly 40 years of bad habits!!!



And, as Doug mentioned, there is a reduction in traffic through this site. Boredom may be a reason. But it may be a perception that FHO is only old-time. I know this is not true, but the majority of active posters do play in that genre. I enjoy reading the posts on other styles. I always learn something!



Caution: Personal opinion ahead. 



I feel that, in general, the OT community is entrenched and focused heavily (maybe too much!) on "sources"and the "correct" version, thus shunning those who learned from living fiddlers and musicians and use the "sources" (if at all!) only to inform their playing. There is also intense focus on celebrity musicians. While there is nothing wrong with this, it may be intimidating and unwelcoming to some.



This medium is incredibly difficult for nuanced communication. Over the years of my participation here, I have seen misunderstandings leading to intense arguments. I have also witnessed some very heated discussions (to put it mildly) - sometimes fueled by trolls. This has improved significantly with the watchful eyes of the moderators who are doing a great job!



This is a wonderful resource and an incredibly supportive community. As with any service, you get out what you put in. 


Edited by - Fiddler on 05/22/2018 12:55:50

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/22/2018:  13:52:28


The topic may have drifted a little ( or maybe not so much), but I'll go with the flow.. A while back a member said something to the effect that he didn't post because there were too many people willing to argue with whatever he said...and in his next post he (IMO) posted an argumentative comment about something that wasn't worth arguing about...The Hangout is what you want it to be..



Personally, I DON"T find many argumentative people on the Hangout.. Yes, Some people have no use for the topics that I post or the comments that I make but that is their choice. I don't have time to pick an argument or engage in one.. To me, the Hangout is a place of FUN, Humour, joy and comradery.   Critical people will find critics, joyful people will find joy.  



Going back to LURKERS... I LURK on several topics because I don't have much to say about them but am still interested...If a member thinks that the Hangout is boring, then I encourage them to post something that THEY think is of interest..  EVERYONE here Loves fiddling.. and EVERYONE here MUST have at least ONE topic that they could post about... (OK, shut me up)...

soppinthegravy - Posted - 05/22/2018:  18:31:34


Amen to that. There does seem to be pressure to learn from certain, accepted sources, and more than a little bullying of people who don't play the "right" version.


 


 


quote:



Caution: Personal opinion ahead. 



I feel that, in general, the OT community is entrenched and focused heavily (maybe too much!) on "sources"and the "correct" version, thus shunning those who learned from living fiddlers and musicians and use the "sources" (if at all!) only to inform their playing. There is also intense focus on celebrity musicians. While there is nothing wrong with this, it may be intimidating and unwelcoming to some.




Originally posted by Fiddler

Like Doug, I use active topics as a way in. I don't subscribe. My mailbox is full enough as it is and I would hate to have something as critical as bowing patterns or rosin or strings or ...., get lost in the noise.



I will say that occasionally someone opens a thread (even though it may have been discussed previously) and it will lead to some very interesting comments and insights. The knowledge base here on FHO is immense!! I can't tell you all how much I have learned about music theory, music history as related to fiddling, technique and instrument maintenance!



Since many of us here are self-taught, when we speak from our personal experiences, we are telling our "truth" and what worked for us. It may not be universal, although there are some consistent themes. Technique is not that critical to playing OT fiddling. If you get the sound you want, you are doing it right. For me, I am now wanting to play other styles which requires better technique.Thus, I am unlearning nearly 40 years of bad habits!!!



And, as Doug mentioned, there is a reduction in traffic through this site. Boredom may be a reason. But it may be a perception that FHO is only old-time. I know this is not true, but the majority of active posters do play in that genre. I enjoy reading the posts on other styles. I always learn something!



Caution: Personal opinion ahead. 



I feel that, in general, the OT community is entrenched and focused heavily (maybe too much!) on "sources"and the "correct" version, thus shunning those who learned from living fiddlers and musicians and use the "sources" (if at all!) only to inform their playing. There is also intense focus on celebrity musicians. While there is nothing wrong with this, it may be intimidating and unwelcoming to some.



This medium is incredibly difficult for nuanced communication. Over the years of my participation here, I have seen misunderstandings leading to intense arguments. I have also witnessed some very heated discussions (to put it mildly) - sometimes fueled by trolls. This has improved significantly with the watchful eyes of the moderators who are doing a great job!



This is a wonderful resource and an incredibly supportive community. As with any service, you get out what you put in. 






 

ChickenMan - Posted - 05/22/2018:  19:01:36


Have subscribed by accident. I Read pretty much everything eventually, except the entirety of any mode thread because they do go on, don't they. smiley 



I stick around because I like most of the people on here and feel like I've made a few friends - or at least friendly acquaintances who would likely enjoy a tune or ten if we met out in the wild. I suppose maybe this place isn't hip enough for a certain crowd, or maybe it's perceived as for newbies or old farts surprise like me (only when I don't shave the grey off or am in any well lit situation, otherwise I'm in my twenties as far as you know).



Do WE focus on celebrity fiddlers? I mean, there are a couple of folks who regularly post here who might be considered celebrities, but that's not the focus of their posts or most interactions with them. BUT if you are taking about the greater fiddle world, name a genre that doesn't have its share of celebrities and fans who might want to emulate them. I'm not into much but OT, but I can name famous Texas, Irish (many 'styles'), swing, as well as bluegrass and old time players. If not for them, I would imagine many wouldn't be playing fiddle at all. But we might give more attention to the celebs than I realize because even though I read most everything  sometimes I'm not paying attention. 

farmerjones - Posted - 05/23/2018:  06:43:33


I've said it before, If you lived where I live, you can't be choosey about styles unless you want to sit and play with yourself. There's just not a lot of fiddlers around here. So I just don't have a lot in common with Pure Drops. I'll attempt to jam with anybody that plays anything. What I've found is, there are precious few that play any instrument compared to years passed.

Dick Hauser - Posted - 05/24/2018:  07:14:47


Banjo Hangout is the the only hangout with a relatively large amount of participation. Fiddle Hangout participation used to be larger. With so many guitar players out there, the number of participants in Flatpicker Hangout is surprisingly small.

Has anybody figured out why participation in FHO "fell off" ? When I used FHO on a daily basis, there were too many inconsiderate postings. That and the fact I play other stringed instruments are probably the reason for this. Generally speaking, banjo players seem to be more tolerant than FHO postings. The Flatpicker Hangout is like a ghost town.

On most days, the non banjo topic in BHO has more postings than Fiddle Hangout and Flatpicker hangout together.

Dick Hauser - Posted - 05/25/2018:  08:25:12


farmerjones - availability of musicians and musical styles seems to be a "regional" thing. Very few fiddlers in my area. While talking to a "snowbird" one day he remarked that there was a fiddler behind every tree where he camped up north of the Alabama gulf coast. Communities with large colleges seemed to have more musical activity.

Musicians can be hard to find, and good musicians even harder to find. Thank goodness for "Band in a Box" and other music software. More fun jamming with "Band in a Box" than it is with most local musicians.

Wish I lived near you. With your O.K. I would be dragging my fiddle, guitar, and banjo over to your place. You would get all the jamming you could want - maybe more. My wife says I don't have interests, I have obsessions.

Duckinacup - Posted - 05/25/2018:  09:20:15


I like grilling chicken drumsticks in my Nuwave oven.  Oops!  Wrong forum.



Would seeing the number of members subscribed to a thread be helpful? Interesting, for sure.  I subscribe to threads that pique my interest, and the email notifications help me navigate directly to them.

TuneWeaver - Posted - 07/02/2018:  14:45:53


quote:

Originally posted by farmerjones

I've said it before, If you lived where I live, you can't be choosey about styles unless you want to sit and play with yourself. There's just not a lot of fiddlers around here. So I just don't have a lot in common with Pure Drops. I'll attempt to jam with anybody that plays anything. What I've found is, there are precious few that play any instrument compared to years passed.






I can relate.. Sometimes we just have to settle for the musicians we can find in real life.. I'd love to play weekly with several of the Hangout members Who I have met in the wild, but  alas, my regular jams are often with people who don't take SOUNDING old time seriously.. I still love them and I still Love to play with them but...they are what I have to work with.. I'm not BETTER than them, just Different.. (they probably have the same issues with ME)...  So..In my old age, I try to remind myself that many other Hangout members would love to jam with the people that I am always complaining about... Again..SO.. I try to keep my ego at bay and leave it in the car when I show up for a jam session.. Sometimes the Ego sneaks into my fiddle case...On occasion, I have to reprimand it..  and upon other occasions, my Ego gets me into trouble..

BanjoBrad - Posted - 07/02/2018:  15:32:25


I don't subscribe to threads because I don't need the added hassle of deleting extraneous emails from my computer. I use the "active topics" option when I enter the forums, and that shows me any posts that have had activity since the last time I checked in.
I'm not as active as I used to be, most anywhere on the net, life has been in the way lately. Even my banjo playing has checked up quite a bit - sometimes I don't pick up any instrument for a week.

Brian Wood - Posted - 07/02/2018:  15:37:43


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoBrad

I don't subscribe to threads because I don't need the added hassle...






I'm with Brad. I log in plenty often to active topics and see what's happening, but I don't want to be notified. I have a life.

BanjoBrad - Posted - 07/03/2018:  11:52:20


I also don't use the tag feature in posts because I have one hell of a time getting rid of that stupid red number by the Notifications.

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